eleven pm moscow time reports of tear gas fired a mass protest against egypt's presidency in cairo's tahrir square as the leaders accused of staging a coup by grabbing himself era like powers we've got the latest tonight. one palestinian is killed more than a dozen wounded by israeli gunfire near the border with gaza there in the bloodiest violation yet of a fragile truce. and the latest clash over the budget for some nations digging their heels in to avoid forking out more cash from their stereotypical.

alone a very good evening chief you just joined. in this is r.t. first this hour egypt's security forces have fired tear gas at protesters rally against the muslim brotherhood backed president mohamed morsi in tahrir square thousands took to the streets to across the country reacting to calls for nationwide demos from opposition leaders his current true with the latest from egypt's capital. what i really want is today's very heavy police tactics using a lot to tear gas on protesters throwing rocks down on protesters from the top of buildings we've also seen molotov being thrown back and forth so what i've already seen is quite harsh tactics used by the police to stop protests in tahrir square at the same time we demonstrations at the presidential palace in support of the president and also across the country we've seen president president protesters clashing in from to brother headquarters so there's been quite

a lot happening today egypt feels very divided what is the general strike against those opposed to what the president's done it's really very strong the opposition right now i mean this is actually in a strange way the ninety eight pm opposition forces you've been quite divided recently there was mass uproar yesterday when the president said late yesterday evening announced his constitutional declaration which essentially awarded him power as the judiciary it also said that his decree is that gratian is would be an appealable and this is something that's led commentators to call him the new pharaoh and to call the document in essence and. say what we're seeing here is massive criticism of the president and actually quite a lot of fear that he's really becoming a new tactic a dictator because he actually has right now more power is the mubarak evidence is the. feeling on the ground we could see a similar uprising to the previous regime fall it's a slightly different situation as the president does have

a very large support base here mostly hails from the muslim brotherhood which is a very organized organization and very able to get that protestors and all their members to the streets which is why we saw thousands in front of the presidential office in support of the president so really whether the oppositional forces can convince the people that that president morsi is doing is wrong is to be seen. well true in cairo there were less discussed the event shaking that place with lawrence freeman an editor of the executive intelligence review magazine is joining us on the line from baltimore good evening to you the president is trying to justify isn't he used to create by saying it's only intended to defend the revolution the protesters there say he's acting as a dictator what do you think the truth lies tonight. i think president morsi is now . on a slippery slope and it shows you how fragile and delicate this whole movement

that was launched a couple years ago or democracy i sometimes say so-called democracy because they're not really giving democratic rights to the people and that's that people are participating in the government and also the people are actually raising their standard of living i think morsi the president has made some kind of arrangement with the military a few months ago i think he's also has some kind of struggle he has strong backing from the west believe president obama was on the phone with him two days ago for several personal conversations because of the elevated status and where he was given the negotiations around the native who guys are conflict so this is a very serious problem for egypt it clearly is not putting egypt on the path to the mark receive an economic development lower interest rate cut into the chair he was briefed on said could this have been forsaken was it preplanned or is it

a big surprise. well i think until the actual people of egypt like all these other countries that have gone through these tumultuous times until people are given real economic development till a given real freedom this is going to continue to be a problem people risk their lives people stayed out of demonstrations people didn't pummeled by police first on the mubarak now and the morsi it's not going to stop until we actually have a real policy for the future of the country and unfortunately the obama administration and the west countries in general they're not really concerned about the welfare of the country they're using morsi and other people for their own geo political reasons and i think the real danger is that morsi could be drawn into the orbit of the u.s. and israel which is to launch a escalated military campaign against iran in the very near future so it leads to

an engine so all part of a bigger picture you're saying that meantime the opposition is crying out loud tonight how far do you think they will go with this anti government outcry at the moment do you think they've got enough support to inflict political changes at the top. well that's a good question your reporter brought it up because the base of morsi is still the muslim brotherhood and they were a large they are a large constituency organisation and so therefore the question is are the forces outside of the muslim brotherhood strong enough and large enough to lead to the kind of things we saw previously when the demonstrations were going on against president mubarak i don't know the answer to that the muslim brotherhood is big and powerful and organized but on the other hand i do know that unless real policies and put forward in the interest of the people in these demonstrations and protests are not going away and i think morsi is putting himself in

a very difficult position and buy time. it's also close to the power. of the. president obama and this will not go down well in egypt or other countries lawrence nice to get you on the program again tonight thanks for taking the time lawrence three minutes executive intelligence review magazine there thank you. while you we invite you to follow the events and running in cairo as it happens on our web site there were post in the latest photos and videos for you at r.t. dot com. one palestinians being killed more than a dozen wounded by israeli gunfire in garza medics say the civilians came under attack for trespassing on the border area with television however tell of eve claims its forces had fired warning shots the bloodshed comes just two days after a cease fire ended the conflict with garza militants activist harry fear is in gaza says the terms of the truce remain unclear. under the ceasefire most gazans see that the no go military buffer zone which israel had put imposed on palestinian

terror john the palestinian side of the border had been raised and that the farmers in the area whose land had been taken away they would not be able to farm that so this morning a groups of palestinians went to what they thought was now again that palestinian territory one palestinian has been killed in that incident we're now getting reports that there are protests following that in the area in the cease fire particular line referring to this that over these coming hours and days there will be more detail different to this notion of the lifting of this siege blockade on the gaza strip but i think people here in gaza according to mind reading a very very skeptical about that actually being realized to one hundred percent extent that the blockade would totally be lifted and there have been two milestone easing of the blockade since it was first imposed but they have been tiny in relative terms i don't think people are expecting this ceasefire to manifest in

a proper proper and real lifting of the blockade of the gaza strip we've had so many injured over a thousand we've had over one hundred sixty palestinians killed and remember that more is still being killed because they're dying of the injuries that they. inflicted on them during the seven eight day war so the body count is still rising and the ministry of health here in gaza in the world health organization still have not given us the latest figures of how many palestinians were killed and so the scars are very much on the ground there on the mind and there on the bodies of some palestinians just last hour i spoke to a spokesman for the israeli prime minister's office i asked him why the so-called surgical strikes killed dozens of palestinian civilians including thirty seven children. you know definitely there are many people in israel the thing the prime minister should. get more and more get more of this operation go in ground operation because these people don't believe but hamas will really start firing

rockets and fortunately unfortunately people in israel cannot believe that the international community can. pressure and enforce this cease fire and that's why people are so kind of frustrated the prime minister started that peroration evren i'd like to ask you about that so while you're on the line an interested party course in all this looking on some officials there have said that israel is showing weakness by letting her master of the hook how concerned are you with terrans reaction well first of all i don't thing israel was weak israel did was poor is needed to stop the rockets we did you know very surgical attacks on terrorists and even now with the very surgical it that some terrorists we don't want to use force more than we need and that in every every case just let us live in peace will not use force believe me there were dozens of civilians in gaza

killed including thirty seven children will anyone in your government or military be held accountable for those deaths do you think differently and we really really sorry for these deaths but you should know that hamas terrorists are behind civilians they fire rockets from schools they hide their rockets in hospitals they use apartments of people in order to fire rockets on our civilians you know when we hurt civilians we really regret that but come out us target our civilians they see victory in hurting save us when we do that unfortunately we're really sorry and we see failure there and believe me if we do want the civilians will not be heard we call upon civilians and we are. every time before every strike we call upon civilians so be around that there are a lot not to let the terrorists use the civilians and then nobody will hurt and

that's good at what we want we want to target and hurt only those who fire rockets on us. all right for more on this now let's go live to gaza and talk to war through a political analyst honey obo show where we try to make contact with the jury in that report hopefully he can hear a side of how they hope you can hear me it's kevin owen here live on r.t. today's border violence exposes just how fragile the ceasefire deal is doesn't it what impact you think could instance like today's have on the future of the cease fire. to be honest with you the whole thing about the fire it was a fragile from the very beginning a few hours later just right after the announcement of the cease fire. israel intensify in. the area. i mentioned we have some communication problems they were afraid we can't hear we keep losing the lying to you they all try one more question if i may the cease fire

as you just alluding to there was broken i was to mediately where when hamas fired several rockets shortly after it was announced that we got today's bloodshed on the border of the two sides really invested in this truce. do you are the one and look at all the problems that are very interesting that you fire i mean they're holding their fire down to however they are very cold and they're winning or who go into pretty much by a lead that you buy or what happened didn't break your bread hamilton will be announced the fire deal i mean martin continued to have happened garden and right then the next morning a few people were shot next to the water's mine and let me be accurate on that i mean how it was with fired rocket right at a time when the and. the cease fire gets quite fragile as of now and we hear both sides are talking about who's going to be more. in the

deal on and who is going to actually just. who is going to violate the cease fire pretty much do we begin well let's wait and see who's going to do that but it's a quite fragile as of now and i want to see it it's solid absolutely not not at this moment we're going to leave it there will come back she bit later and try to get a better life and then that record a chat with you and hopefully play it out a bit later but for now. thanks for some your thoughts there at least. coming up later this hour a failure to see i'd see why talks on the future of budget collapse and leaders clashed over how much money should be given to the blog that's just one of the many stories i got lined up for you after this break.

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european union leaders have failed to reach a deal after days of negotiating the block's financial future in brussels most e.u. members supported an increase in the budget while some including britain called for cuts claiming that in time to start see nations just don't have money to spare is r.t. sarah ferguson. no deal for that son that the budget talks says he said all cynically ending in collapse is going to be pretty hard to put a positive spin on this nonetheless of course we're seeing the european leaders trying now i've got the statement in front of me at the moment from the european council and they're saying the bilateral talks are going to continue they're going to have to hammer out some kind of agreement by next year

a lot of focus now is going to be or what exactly went wrong and of course what is going to happen next what we really saw happening in the past few days and that this sort of crux of the failure was that useful this widening divide between the big donor countries you have britain you had germany you have the netherlands you had denmark they were very much pushing for these big cuts in the e.u. budget is going to take us from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty any so on the other side of that divide countries like france and italy now also what went wrong is the deal that was put on the table by the president of the european council by. these countries including britain saying look that's simply not good enough and so alternately as we said they were able to overcome that they only say this whole given this debate going to drag on into that this is very much a story of divided europe there were a number of countries that stood alongside britain in calling for those cuts david

cameron very much would have wanted to give the message to people watching the back . side as he said i'll be fighting for the very best deal for the british taxpayer now what he said is look we didn't get a deal but we didn't get an unacceptable daylight the prime minister is going to be returning to britain facing a country that never at any point in its history has really felt like its membership in the european union itself is so under question really the talks of britain having an in or out referendum in the european union seeming more like a question of not if that will happen but when. party sarah ferguson learned the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov criticize nato as potential deployment of patriot missile systems at the syria turkey border plans to stall the arms were put forward after a request by ankara alliance officials claim systems will only serve defensive purposes and this comes amid reports of intensified shelling in damascus suburbs by syrian troops attempting to advance on rebel held areas there. is on this go back

to london i can have a complete lack of history as an adult is there waiting to chat to us as i'm going to bring to you if the request is granted is it do you think maybe the first step towards implementing a no fly zone well it could well be the sign that there will be a limited intervention especially that we've been hearing the country especially britain and france advocating such intervention recently where they've been talking about limited scale intervention how about how how. comprehensive and how an all out war style this is going to be i think it is not going it's not going to be a war style it will be a war of attrition it's not going to threaten the syrian government of a sudden intervention they know very well that this is go and ignite a. response from the syrian side that may trigger

a lot of chaos and in the region has been coming from a mermaid to achieve anders fogh rasmussen saying any possible deployment of patriot missiles would be purely defensive but with an increasing amount of course a western political backing for those rebels in syria you think it could eventually lead to military intervention. well i mean whether it is defensive we've heard what mr lavrov said today it was interesting to listen to his theory and analogy today where he said that if we see a gun and the first act in theater then of the play then it's very likely to shoot by the third act and and deploying such message is not really going to be for a defensive measure what do they need to defend against at least that turkey has an army and it can defend against more tire for example this is clearly for a larger scale intervention where they want to secure a no fly zone area now whether this is going to go ahead or not i think there are

different rhetorics currently even within the camp of the powers that are supporting the rebels i think the u.s. and other countries are a little more reluctant to go ahead with such a scenario where you have the e.u. countries with the turkey and behind them the gulf countries are very very keen to go ahead with such no fly no fly zones whether that will lead to military intervention i think this is very unlikely. to be a scenario that we witnessed in syria final four looks therefore that turkey wants nato to increase its involvement in syria with a growing number of refugees of course crossing the border into turkey it begs the question prepared is nato for paid to various actions in libya. well again i mean it's very interesting to hear turkey saying that they need the nato support for intervention in syria for the sake of an increasing number of refugees syria itself

received over a million iraqi refugees which were the result of the need to intervention in iraq syria also received over half a million refugees from israel a country that is allowed with the need to turkey of course i mean is dealing with the aftermath of the syrian crisis in terms of the number of refugees arriving to turkey but it's very strange that it's to take asking for nato intervention this is the style of the humanitarian war that we've been now recently hearing about. and military intervention based on a humanitarian crisis and i think it will be very very interesting to see such such as annoying we're following it closely we appreciate your thoughts being on the program give us your view yaz and thank you very much thank you on the way a close look at the recent conflict between guards there and how massive people of l. and he's guessing cross-talk talking about that after the break. download

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hello and welcome to crossfire computer all of the fragile cease fire hangs over gaza after eight days of destruction and death what did israel actually achieve what about the palestinians on what grounds can hamas and the people of gaza claim victory in this round of the conflict and is this truce merely a preload more complex. to cross-talk the cease fire in gaza i'm joined by your mate while in tel aviv he is head of the herzog center and a faculty member at ben gurion university in gaza we cross to harry fear he's

a documentary filmmaker and an activist and in amman we have. he is coeditor of the all right gentlemen cross talk rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you like to go to you first in amman both sides are claiming victory here how can that be. well i think it's typical for all sides to claim victory and it's questionable whether anyone emerges victorious from such a conflict but i think if you look at a political terms how can i think legitimately legitimately claim some significant achievements whereas netanyahu not i think if you you know and it's not just hamas i think it's palestinians across the board including many who simply detest hamas who feel that rather than israel having deterred the palestinian factions in the gaza strip it was in fact they who deterred israel from launching a ground invasion and whereas the.